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Is Beyonce Demon Possessed?

It wasn’t until recently that I had even heard of Beyonce, I’m just not interested in the godless soft porn stars that we have today but something did catch my interest. Upon researching a certain topic that I’ll be covering later on my blog, I uncovered the claim that Beyonce is demon possessed. You’re probably thinking “Oh brother, are they going to say she’s an alien next?” or maybe I’m the only one who thought that at first but it caught my attention because Beyonce herself claims to be possessed by something:

“When I see video of myself on stage or TV I’m like, ‘Who is that girl?’. That’s not me, I wouldn’t dare do that.” (Beyonce, September 2003).

“I have someone else that takes over when it’s time for me to work and when I’m on stage, this alter ego that I’ve created that kind of protects me and who I really am. Sasha Fierce is the fun, more sensual, more aggressive, more outspoken side and more glamorous side that comes out when I’m working and when I’m on the stage.” (Beyonce Press Statement, October 2008).

I’ve created an alter ego: things I do when performing I would never do normally. I reveal things about myself that I wouldn’t do in an interview. I have out-of-body experiences [on stage]. If I cut my leg, if I fall, I don’t even feel it. I’m so fearless, I’m not aware of my face or my body.” (Marie Claire interview, October 2008). 

Does this sound anywhere near normal to you? It sure seemed crazy to me, so I began to take this claim more seriously. Christians shouldn’t be all that skeptical, it’s not surprising that some use demons to bring about their success and subsequently are possessed by them. Apparently this transformation from Beyonce to Sasha Fierce can be seen in the recent Super Bowl performance that she had this year:

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That’s some freaky stuff right there. At the same time, it feels like something you’d only see in a movie but given her own claims and these images, it seems like it all fits. There’s a youtube video that breaks this process down in more detail. According to some, there’s all sorts of demonic symbolism to be found in her work as well. Beyonce is not the only one who claims to have these experiences, there are other stars that have similar experiences. Coincidence? You can be the judge of that, but it doesn’t seem like one to me. There’s something sinister at work here and as christians we should confront sin but we should also pray that God frees them from this self destructive lifestyle.

Disclaimer: None of this is meant to be conclusive proof that she is demon possessed, it’s mainly presented for the sake of interest and discussion. Feel free to make your own conclusions.

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  1. Alternate hypothesis: Beyonce is just stupid. This is evidenced by the fact that she calls her “alter-ego” Sasha Fierce. That sounds like a name a bad LARPer would make up :P Furthermore, wouldn’t demons have better things to do than trick people into listening to crappy music?

    • Just added a disclaimer, don’t want people to think that I believe this to be strong proof or anything! There is the possibility of alternative hypothesis, I just think this seems to be more plausible given certain conditions: 1) God, 2) Immaterial Minds, 3) Evil Spirits, 4) Christianity, 5) Her claims, 6) Her demonic symbolism, and lastly, 7) the images. Just something to put into consideration collectively, but perhaps it is all some fabrication – who knows for sure. As for demons, it’s not just for people to listen to crappy music but for idolization and the message that the music gives.

  2. Her claims are not in the least bit unusual to anybody who has ever seen performers and met them in person, or been on stage themselves. There is no evidence whatsoever to suggest that she was claiming she was literally possessed by something.
    Freddie Mercury was extremely introverted and shy as a person generally (read any interview with ANYBODY who knew him as a close friend) – and yet when he got on stage he was incredibly flamboyant and the last person you would call “shy” (he has been called he greatest frontman of all time). This is one example, but there are many others from across MULTIPLE areas of entertainment; many comedians report being highly shy, and using comedy in their stage routines as a way of dealing with shyness.
    In fact, a contest on American Idol (Jessica Sanchez) was a big fan of Beyoncé and actually adopted this same tactic as her for performing; she created an “alter-ego” who she performed as, which gave her confidence that she felt she otherwise lacked. It was not a literally separate entity – she simply used it as a psychological device to help her confidence and elucidate a flamboyance that she otherwise felt she was incapable of.

    As far as pain foes: I can remember reading that guitarist Yngwie Malmsteen once ripped a nail clean off his hand when it got caught in the bridge of his guitar (without him realizing) and he spun the guitar around his neck. He continued the rest of the show. How? Adrenaline. Has a surprising ability to mask pain. As a beginner guitarist I was once going nuts on a Hendrix style routine playing along to his music with some friends when I dropped the guitar. I picked it up and continued playing, and only later noticed that when I dropped it, the whammy bar must have been pointing down and had put a hole between two of my toes (my sock had a huge patch of blood). I didn’t notice it before because I had adrenaline PUMPING through me and simply didn’t feel it.

    As for the pictures……where’s the freaky stuff? Her eyes are different because she is in an entirely different light with an entirely different expression on her face. Her tongue is different most likely because she is singing a different word.

    Out of the conditions you listed, the only two I can see that would be relevant here as evidence would be 5) and 7)………and both of these are very easily explained without resort to demonic possession.

    How is this even a discussion? lol I mean no offence here, but honestly, I don’t see how or why this is even being seriously considered?

  3. There is no evidence whatsoever to suggest that she was claiming she was literally possessed by something.

    I think her “out of body” experiences points to this not just being some mere alter ego but something else entirely. There’s also some demonic symbolism that comes with her work. So to argue that no evidence whatsoever suggests this is not exactly justified, at least in the strong way in which you have worded this.

    This is one example, but there are many others from across MULTIPLE areas of entertainment; many comedians report being highly shy, and using comedy in their stage routines as a way of dealing with shyness.

    I can see how this aspect is true, but sometimes their alter egos can take a demonic personification in addition to that benefit. Some bands, like Green Day, have songs that talk about a demon-like creature called St Jimmy. I know people who have given NAMES to their demons, it’s not at all unsurprising that others would do the same. Not only does it deal with shyness, but it helps relieve any responsibility for what happens on stage. This is something that Beyonce has done because as she herself has said, she would not want to meet Sasha Fierce in person.

    As for the pictures……where’s the freaky stuff? Her eyes are different because she is in an entirely different light with an entirely different expression on her face. Her tongue is different most likely because she is singing a different word.

    She was in that “entirely different” light in the previous scenes but did not have her eyes go to that form. It’s strange that it did when prior to this it did not. Don’t see something like that could occur from a different word, but who knows, maybe you’re right.

    How is this even a discussion? lol I mean no offence here, but honestly, I don’t see how or why this is even being seriously considered?

    Have mercy dude, I suppose I’m just a curious person you know? I’m open to thinking through ideas and WC is a way to just have that kind of “open” discussion on ideas that may sound outlandish to the modern person. Again, I’m not considering this as equally significant or important as say the existence of God or the goodness of Jesus by ANY stretch of the imagination. Heck, I’d even talk about aliens just because some people believe this stuff. You may think that this is something that ALL people will agree with you on but the reality is that there are many people who would be interested in reading something like this even if they don’t think it is true.

    • I think her “out of body” experiences points to this not just being some mere alter ego but something else entirely.

      This is assuming that we believe her claims. But, celebrities often make wild claims that aren’t true – like Charlie Sheen’s tiger blood. Would Beyonce be able to tell a real OBE from one that’s all in her head? Doubtful.

      There’s also some demonic symbolism that comes with her work. [...] Some bands, like Green Day, have songs that talk about a demon-like creature called St Jimmy.

      This is probably just artistic expression. Here’s another example: http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/fozzy/darkpassenger.html …and now here’s a quote from Chris Jericho, frontman of Fozzy: “I really feel that having a relationship with God and Jesus has given me a lot more drive to succeed and to follow my heart and dreams knowing that there’s somebody in charge of everything.”

      She was in that “entirely different” light in the previous scenes but did not have her eyes go to that form.

      It’s not just the lighting – she’s wearing extremely heavy makeup. When she narrows her eyes, they’re going to look like that. The location of the light source will also play a big part.

      Anyway, claims about demon possession should be looked at especially critically when we’re talking about musicians, because people have been claiming this for practically forever. The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, The Doors, The Rolling Stones, and Ozzy Osbourne have all had this accusation. Where are they now? Not causing demon-influenced havoc. Ozzy is probably deciding what kind of flowers to put on his front porch right about now. :P

      • This is assuming that we believe her claims. But, celebrities often make wild claims that aren’t true – like Charlie Sheen’s tiger blood. Would Beyonce be able to tell a real OBE from one that’s all in her head? Doubtful.

        I suppose this isn’t so *wild* for me as say an alien or a lizard man, because I know demonic forces are at work both intellectually and from reliable witnesses. Another claim that she made which seems to strongly suggest some sort of possession is this: “I remember, right before I performed I raised my hands up, and it was kind of the first time I felt something else come into me. And I knew that was going to be my coming out night.”

        Now see, I know stars make outrageous claims but why make something like this up? It just makes her seem like she’s demon possessed, wouldn’t that create a bad rep for her? I’m inclined to take her at her word on this, it’s crazy not to know the difference between an alter-ego for example and demon possession. I think even the stupidest people would know that they were being taken over by some other power.

        This is probably just artistic expression. Here’s another example: http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/fozzy/darkpassenger.html

        It’s not just simple shapes though, the symbolism is in fact an image of a beast taken directly from Baphomet, the imagery used in the church of satan. Interesting lyrics though, I don’t see how that is not christian given his own recognition of sin and his request for forgiveness. It does make me curious whether these lyrics are meant to express his personal story or is just a fictional creation of his.

        It’s not just the lighting – she’s wearing extremely heavy makeup. When she narrows her eyes, they’re going to look like that.

        Well I mean it’s not just the eyes either, she experiences a transformation that is just like what she describes – namely, she goes from this “happy” kind of innocent personality to this very sensual and more aggressive person. I’m aware that people can “make” these transitions… I can make facial expressions of anger from one of happiness but all I’m saying is that it aligns with the context of her claims.

        Anyway, claims about demon possession should be looked at especially critically when we’re talking about musicians, because people have been claiming this for practically forever.

        I am not into any of those bands and I never heard of them being demonically influenced except for Led Zeppelin. I guess I’m behind :P I agree we should look at this critically though, I’m only holding this tentatively.

  4. Is this honestly something people are wondering on the internet? It reminds me of those theories that lizard men control the world, or whatever.

  5. So to argue that no evidence whatsoever suggests this is not exactly justified, at least in the strong way in which you have worded this

    She specifically said in the passage you quoted “I have created this alter-ego….”. Scientifically, psychologically, there is no evidence that she is claiming what you believe she is claiming. In fact there is testimony from her that directly provides evidence against it”

    “SASHA FIERCE is the fun, more sensual, more aggressive, more outspoken side and more glamorous side that comes out when I’m working and when I’m on the stage. The double album allows me to take more risks and really step out of myself, or shall I say, step more into myself, and reveal a side of me that people only know me see

    SASHA FIERCE is the fun, more sensual, more aggressive, more outspoken side and more glamorous side that comes out when I’m working and when I’m on the stage. The double album allows me to take more risks and really step out of myself, or shall I say, step more into myself, and reveal a side of me that people only know me see

    “Sasha Fierce is the fun, more sensual, more aggressive, more outspoken side and more glamorous side that comes out when I’m working and when I’m on the stage. The double album allows me to take more risks and really step out of myself, or shall I say, step more into myself and reveal a side of me that people only know me see.” From her website Bio, her speaking about the album “I Am…..Sasha Fierce”

    She has given this “alter ego” a name, but she CLEARLY does not see it as anything DISTINCT from her. She doesn’t see “Sasha” as a separate entity in any way, shape or form.

    I can see how this aspect is true, but sometimes their alter egos can take a demonic personification in addition to that benefit.

    Occam’s razor; no reason to suspect demons here.

    She was in that “entirely different” light in the previous scenes but did not have her eyes go to that form. It’s strange that it did when prior to this it did not. Don’t see something like that could occur from a different word, but who knows, maybe you’re right.

    What do you mean “that form”? If you cake your eyes in mascara, then pull two very different faces (one eyes wide, the other eyes squinting) and shine a different light on your face…..you will see just the same effect as here. And you honestly can’t see how singing two different words at the top of your lungs you might use your tongue differently? Does your tongue sit in a fixed position when you speak? Or when you yell as loud as you can?

    Have mercy dude, I suppose I’m just a curious person you know? I’m open to thinking through ideas and WC is a way to just have that kind of “open” discussion on ideas that may sound outlandish to the modern person

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with being a curious person; but curiosity should be tempered with a healthy dose of skepticism and reason. If I was to tell you that I believe fairies cause daffodils to be yellow, you presumably would not feel curious enough to take my claim seriously? That is how I see this claim. The evidence is beyond flimsy, and is akin to those who find the face of Jesus on a slice of toast.

    You may think that this is something that ALL people will agree with you on but the reality is that there are many people who would be interested in reading something like this even if they don’t think it is true

    BELIEVE ME, I know that there are all too many people out there who would find this interesting and give it serious consideration! I just believe in intelligent people distinguishing between the claims that are worthy of investigation, and those that are just a bit silly. It’s like when people ask scientists to take seriously the idea that the Earth was created 6,000-10,000 years ago. The reason scientists don’t engage such people is because in light of what we know through overwhelming evidence, such claims are just silly and would be a waste of time to take seriously. That’s how I feel about this, dude.

    • She specifically said in the passage you quoted “I have created this alter-ego….”. Scientifically, psychologically, there is no evidence that she is claiming what you believe she is claiming. In fact there is testimony from her that directly provides evidence against it”

      I acknowledge that part but again, what part of having an alter ego creates out of body experiences as well as a feeling that something else comes into her? This quote seems to be stronger, “I remember, right before I performed I raised my hands up, and it was kind of the first time I felt something else come into me”. You can create an alter ego to only to such an extent until this alter-ego takes on something else entirely.

      If you cake your eyes in mascara, then pull two very different faces (one eyes wide, the other eyes squinting) and shine a different light on your face…..you will see just the same effect as here.

      Except in the video, it seems to show her in the same lighting but different eyes. Again though, I’m open to it being just an issue of lighting. Demon possession does not need to take any visible form in order for it to occur, but it can involve a change from personalities like what is demonstrated in the video. Not once did I ever treat the images as evidence in itself, it was only in conjunction with her own claims that I began to give it some serious consideration.

      There is absolutely nothing wrong with being a curious person; but curiosity should be tempered with a healthy dose of skepticism and reason. If I was to tell you that I believe fairies cause daffodils to be yellow, you presumably would not feel curious enough to take my claim seriously?

      I’d be curious to know what evidence you have in support of that position. First of all, I don’t even believe in fairies but I believe in angels and demons because of the scientific, biblical and eyewitness accounts of their existence. So with that prior belief, I already have reason to take it somewhat seriously but not without some skepticism and doubt of course. You make it seem like I must be totally gullible and that somehow I made absolutely no skeptical considerations with your analogies but I can do you one better with something more plausible: Beyonce is an alien!

      At least aliens are treated seriously by some scientists given their search for them. And I mentioned just that at the beginning paragraph, it was just her comments that changed my views. Perhaps my interpretation of her was wrong. If that’s the case then that’s just a simple misunderstanding on an issue that I never said had conclusive proof to begin with! It’s just a tentative belief that I decided to share on a person blog!

      BELIEVE ME, I know that there are all too many people out there who would find this interesting and give it serious consideration! I just believe in intelligent people distinguishing between the claims that are worthy of investigation, and those that are just a bit silly

      Fair enough, I make absolutely no condemnation for your unbelief. You are by far not stupid or ignorant for rejecting this claim, in fact you are quite reasonable. All I can say is that I just like discussing things that are not philosophical or political every now and then because I just have no devoted stakes in it, just like with the glory cloud I posted a while back.

  6. Damn, didn’t realize I had quoted that 3 times!

    • You should be able to edit your posts now! But that’s only before 10-15 minutes of your posting. Just something to keep in mind in the future :)

  7. “Fere libenter homines id quod volunt credunt” – Julius Caesar.

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