The degradation of morality is going further and further down the well of irrationality. Posted this article on my Facebook page and I’ve been having a very interesting dialogue on there ever since. I, along with many others, knew this would happen. We knew that once marriage was redefined, the flood gates to allow these immoral practices to count as marriage would be opened.
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5 Responses to The Degradation of Morality: SSM and Beastiality
Robert June 12, 2012
The vast majority of SSM advocates, including myself, are going to agree with you that we shouldn’t allow animal marriage. It’s also important to point out that this isn’t a consequence of SSM; bestiality has been around for thousands of years. Everyone wants societal recognition of everything they do; we need to grant it or not on a case by case basis.
Gil Sanders June 12, 2012
A few years ago, that’s what SSM advocates said about polygamy but that position has gradually waned. I don’t think anyone said that SSM is the efficient cause of beastiality. Rather, the argument was that it is a logical consequence of SSM. Any refusal to provide a grant cannot be justified in principle, and at best is simply arbitrary favoritism.
rey June 14, 2012
“The degradation of morality is going further and further down the well of irrationality. ”
Paul started it with justification by faith alone. When he declared the Ten Commandments nailed to the cross and all that foolishness he began the end of morality. Of course the Catholics didn’t pay much attention to Paul’s deviant theology until Augustine, and even after that they “controlled” Paul by controlling access to the Bible, by keeping it in Latin. The Prots, however, were not so smart, and published Paul’s morality destroying doctrine for the whole world to see, and now we are reaping the fruits of the stupidity of the Reformers!
Alfredo June 15, 2012
Rey, what are you talking about??? People are pushing for bestiality because of Sola Fide??
I think literally every sentence of your paragraph is false. I don’t think Paul taught justification by faith alone, and even if he did it wouldn’t “start” anything, let alone begin “the end of morality.” Augustine didn’t teach faith alone at all. The Bible wasn’t in Latin to “control” it but rather because it was the language of scholarship at a time when the vast majority of people weren’t even trained to read. Finally, although I think Protestantism is false, the Reformers didn’t cause the moral degradation which followed; it doesn’t follow from sola fide that you can just do anything and still be saved. I’ll admit there are problems with how this works (which is part of why I don’t accept it) but nevertheless people who believe in sola fide think it necessarily follows from one’s justification that one will also be sanctified, so it’s not just a license to do whatever one pleases.
rey June 15, 2012
The doctrine of justification by faith alone pushed by you Prots has become secularized into justification by existence alone. And that is where all the immorality comes from. And when this immorality comes — like the push to accept homosexuality — the Protestant churches protest like crazy for the cameras saying “Homosexuality is a sin!” but then turn around in their churches and say “but it can’t damn anyone because we are justified by faith and not by works.” The Protish view of justification by faith alone makes sin meaningless, and means that they always have to say “X is a sin; but who cares since we are justified by faith alone.” And this has destoryed the moral fabric of society exactly like Erasmus argued it would in his Hyperaspistes (which was his reply to Luther’s reply to his Diatribe on Free Will).
“nevertheless people who believe in sola fide think it necessarily follows from one’s justification that one will also be sanctified”
No this nonsense about ‘sanctification’ is not taught in most faith-onlyist churches, particularly those that believe in ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED. And even in churches where it is taught, its just one of those “let’s throw something out so we can say we technically aren’t in favor of immorality even though its obvious to anyone with a brain we are” type of tripe things that faith-onlyist pastors love.